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mr. romney saying that the president was like one of his sons. joining us there the university of denver, the site of tonight's debate, former new york mayor, rudy giuliani. thank you very much for your time. nice to have you here. >> thank you, rachel. >> what was your overall response to the debate? we know you support mitt romney but what do you think he did well? >> i really am very excited about it. i thought he did exactly what he had to do to turn this campaign around. i thought it was as devastating a convict a and defeat i've seen in a presidential campaign and debate. i thought the main thing he did and a real consistency throughout what he was saying and this is the contrast for the american people. he's talking about private-sector problems and solutions to our problems, to our economy, education, health care. and president obama is talking about government solutions. it's a very different vision that the two men have. i think president obama, also, seemed a little beif yofuddled. i'm not sure he's used to be challenged and he seemed
mr. romney saying that the president was like one of his sons. joining us there the university of denver, the site of tonight's debate, former new york mayor, rudy giuliani. thank you very much for your time. nice to have you here. >> thank you, rachel. >> what was your overall response to the debate? we know you support mitt romney but what do you think he did well? >> i really am very excited about it. i thought he did exactly what he had to do to turn this campaign around....
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romney bore in with details about his record. it's clear mr. obama isn't used to someone challenging the attack lines that he uses to describe mr. romney's various proposals on the stump." and again, where was the 47%? where was it? he just didn't go there? >> that's the great mystery. >> the thing that's true in both these editorials that i do think one of the president's failures here was not just the stylistic failure, was a substantive failure. mitt romney made a lot of claims last night. he said a lot of things we've never heard from him before. he tried to claim he doesn't want to cut a $5 trillion tax cut. he said that no tax cut he imposes will add to the deficit. that's totally new. he doesn't want to cut medicare. the president let all of that go largely. >> why? >> didn't challenge romney on what deductions and loopholes he wants to close in order to make his deficit plan revenue neutral. those are all things where the president manifestly failed last night, but they are things that the campaign is now going to litigate over the cour
romney bore in with details about his record. it's clear mr. obama isn't used to someone challenging the attack lines that he uses to describe mr. romney's various proposals on the stump." and again, where was the 47%? where was it? he just didn't go there? >> that's the great mystery. >> the thing that's true in both these editorials that i do think one of the president's failures here was not just the stylistic failure, was a substantive failure. mitt romney made a lot of...
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romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be here, right? you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these numbers. that plus 19 advantage that the president has on looking out for the middle class, that is a death nail for mr. romney's campaign if he cannot turn that around. but i think looking ahead to tonight's debate, there is a real opportunity in the huge disconnect in the electorate, in a way that reflects a real risk for president obama. there's this huge disconnect between mr. obama's best number with voters and one of his worst numbers. which is that president obama has so far not bee
romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be...
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. >> romney graciously followed suit with an easy quip. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine, here with me. >> reporter: and then they got down to business. the subject, jobs. romney took it to the president from the get-go. >> middle income families are being crushed. >> reporter: it was clear and direct and aggressive. romney seemed hon his game and ready for a fight. hammering away at the grim economic track record of the last four years. >> when the president took office, 32 million people on food stamps. 47 million on foot stamp today. economic growth this year, slower than last year. and last year, slower than the year before. going forward with the stat us can quo is not going to cut it for the american people who are struggling today. >> reporter: president obama seemed, at first, to wander a bit, but found his footing with an answer that slammed romney as the heir of failed trickle-down economics. >> math, common sense and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growt
. >> romney graciously followed suit with an easy quip. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine, here with me. >> reporter: and then they got down to business. the subject, jobs. romney took it to the president from the get-go. >> middle income families are being crushed. >> reporter: it was clear and direct and aggressive. romney seemed hon his game and ready for a fight. hammering...
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mrs. romney, then mrs. obama. and a coin toss determined the president will speak first with romney getting the last word. >> i'd ask the wealthy to pay a little more. >> more americans are living in poverty. >> reporter: after a relentless blitz of campaign ads and months hammering home familiar themes -- >> this is a country where everybody should get a fair shot and everybody should do their fair share. >> we can't afford four more years like the last four years. >> reporter: advisors on both sides agree tonight's debate presents a critical opportunity to break through to the american voter. >> this is an opportunity really to reach the voters that haven't yet made up their mind in an unfiltered way. >> they want to hear plans forward. they want to know what the president will do over the course of the next four years. and how exactly we'll get there. >> reporter: with polls showing mr. obama leading in the crucial swing states, top aides have encouraged the president to be himself, don't change what's working,
mrs. romney, then mrs. obama. and a coin toss determined the president will speak first with romney getting the last word. >> i'd ask the wealthy to pay a little more. >> more americans are living in poverty. >> reporter: after a relentless blitz of campaign ads and months hammering home familiar themes -- >> this is a country where everybody should get a fair shot and everybody should do their fair share. >> we can't afford four more years like the last four...
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i'm one that thinks mr. romney might have made a mistake tonight. i think he was theatrical, but he gave so many answers that will be proven to be untrue. is it not the strategy of obama campaign to let the -- let mr. romney commit himself to things that will not stand the light of day, including his own former position? as i said before the debate, a rope-a-dope strategy? >> on romney's huge tax cut, which he did dishonestly try to run away from. i think the president did a good job of explaining to the middle class, you're going to pay the burden for a $5 trillion tax cut. that issue has been driving voters in this election and that was intensified tonight. the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out of this debate, we're going to be making sure people understand, and the president said this, romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'm going to replace obama care. romney said he's going to repeal wall street reform. as the president said, these are plans that are harm the middle
i'm one that thinks mr. romney might have made a mistake tonight. i think he was theatrical, but he gave so many answers that will be proven to be untrue. is it not the strategy of obama campaign to let the -- let mr. romney commit himself to things that will not stand the light of day, including his own former position? as i said before the debate, a rope-a-dope strategy? >> on romney's huge tax cut, which he did dishonestly try to run away from. i think the president did a good job of...
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which deducts would mr. romney curtail to avoid as he insisted he would having the lower tax rates he proposes add trillions to the debt? he didn't say. onmaintaining he would not under any circumstances raise the taxes on middle in americans. how would mr. obama strengthen social security over the long term must be done? he didn't explain, only a tweak is needed. the president saying that he would -- that he had embraced simpson-bowles. >> he had not. >> if you ask simpson and bowls, he did not. he gave them a pat on the back and sent them out of the rose garden. >>> you're right. we went into this and said there's two guys debate, there's 90 minutes, almost exclusively focused on the economy, we'll get some meat on the bone here. but we forgot that this is politics. there are less than five weeks to go before the election, and there are certain things, mitt romney's tax plan, barack obama on social security, barack obama on simpson bowls and debt reduction, they don't want to put meat on the bone. people c
which deducts would mr. romney curtail to avoid as he insisted he would having the lower tax rates he proposes add trillions to the debt? he didn't say. onmaintaining he would not under any circumstances raise the taxes on middle in americans. how would mr. obama strengthen social security over the long term must be done? he didn't explain, only a tweak is needed. the president saying that he would -- that he had embraced simpson-bowles. >> he had not. >> if you ask simpson and...
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explain yourself, mr. president. does romney do that? >> well, look, it all depends on whether or not the subject is brought up by the moderator. >> bill: no, no, no. he can bring it up anymoreself. you know that. >> it looks like he a stretch if he does it either an specific question by lehrer or specific question by obama or generalize. >> obama says 47% hold it, don't take mayor of los angeles comment out of tape out of context on a tape. i heard you saying bing bing bing bing bing. didn't look like it's tit-for-tat. he has got to look for opening more subtle than that. that's too obvious. he needs to be presidential. when he brings it up he needs to bring it up i'm wired up about. this he doesn't need to bring it up in -- he needs to bring it up in sorrow and regret. you raised this incident in a way that was racially charged stirring up animosity. >> bill: he has to rise above. >> absolutely. he he needs to be presidential. he needs to be nor o'reilly or rove on this issue because both of us are too spun up about it. >> bill: okay.
explain yourself, mr. president. does romney do that? >> well, look, it all depends on whether or not the subject is brought up by the moderator. >> bill: no, no, no. he can bring it up anymoreself. you know that. >> it looks like he a stretch if he does it either an specific question by lehrer or specific question by obama or generalize. >> obama says 47% hold it, don't take mayor of los angeles comment out of tape out of context on a tape. i heard you saying bing bing...
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moments ago we saw a warm embrace between mrs. romney and mrs. obama. they both met each other at the front of the hall. their hiss, this is the first of three meetings debate style between these candidates. even though voting is under way in 34 states. we'll throw it to the moderator. >> good evening from the magness arena at the university of denver in denver, colorado. i'm jim lehrer of the pbs news hour, and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question, then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the in
moments ago we saw a warm embrace between mrs. romney and mrs. obama. they both met each other at the front of the hall. their hiss, this is the first of three meetings debate style between these candidates. even though voting is under way in 34 states. we'll throw it to the moderator. >> good evening from the magness arena at the university of denver in denver, colorado. i'm jim lehrer of the pbs news hour, and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates between president...
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i'll do it again. >> mr. president? >> first of all, i think governor romney is going to have a first day. because he's also going to repeal obama care which will not be very popular with democrats as you're sitting down with them. but, look, my philosophy has been i will take ideas from anybody, democrat or republican as long as they're advancing the cause of making middle class families stronger and giving ladders of opportunity to the middle class. that's how we cut taxes from middle class families and small businesses. that's how we cut a trillion dollars of spenting that wasn't advancing that cause. that's how we signed three trade deals into law that are helping us to double our exports and sell more american products around the world. that's how we repeal don't ask, don't tell. that's how we ended the war in iraq and that's how we're going to wind down the war in afghanistan. that's how we went after al qaeda and bin laden. so we've seen progress even under republican control of the house of representatives. but
i'll do it again. >> mr. president? >> first of all, i think governor romney is going to have a first day. because he's also going to repeal obama care which will not be very popular with democrats as you're sitting down with them. but, look, my philosophy has been i will take ideas from anybody, democrat or republican as long as they're advancing the cause of making middle class families stronger and giving ladders of opportunity to the middle class. that's how we cut taxes from...
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but that's what mr. romney is saying he won't do. he's saying he has all these specifics in terms of cutting deductions, finding ways of closing loopholes so that people would pay more and there wouldn't be this giant tax cut but he wouldn't say what that would be. this lack of detail sincere really a huge problem. that makes romney's claim incomplete. the president's claim false. you just can't assume the worst. the real problem, fundamentally, we just don't have the details of how this would work. we don't really know how to measure the statements of either man other than the way we have at this point. >> don't you wish someone would have pressed mitt romney on that issue last night? >> honestly, people have been pressing him on t the president tried to him press him on it last night. the romney people have consistently -- they've given a little bit more information on what they're going to talk about. for example, people are worried about the mortgage interest deduction on their taxes, whether or not that's one of the loopholes th
but that's what mr. romney is saying he won't do. he's saying he has all these specifics in terms of cutting deductions, finding ways of closing loopholes so that people would pay more and there wouldn't be this giant tax cut but he wouldn't say what that would be. this lack of detail sincere really a huge problem. that makes romney's claim incomplete. the president's claim false. you just can't assume the worst. the real problem, fundamentally, we just don't have the details of how this would...
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mr. president, you're entitled to your own plane and house, but not your own facts. i'm not going to cut education funding. kneel nemo all right. we clipped the first part of that, but the president was referring to the comment from mitt romney get the government out of the whole college loan business or cutback on it, that kids could go to their parents, ask for money for college, and that was something that the president really zeroed in on. mitt romney said that was not what he meant and all of that, but he came back with the comment, you're not entitled to your own facts. ed, you were watching this very, very closely, former mcdonald's usa ceo. o delivered the goods tonight? >> wow. the american people won clearly, but romney really brought it home. you can see it very clearly. do you want to double down on the failed policies of obama, or do you want to embrace a clear vision from a businessman that has leadership skills, strategic vision, and can take the country where it needs to g
mr. president, you're entitled to your own plane and house, but not your own facts. i'm not going to cut education funding. kneel nemo all right. we clipped the first part of that, but the president was referring to the comment from mitt romney get the government out of the whole college loan business or cutback on it, that kids could go to their parents, ask for money for college, and that was something that the president really zeroed in on. mitt romney said that was not what he meant and all...
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stage, almost one-upping the president from the start. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you can imagine here with me. >> that set the tone as romney seemed to control the tempo, sometimes even serving as the moderator. >> let's get back to medicare. >> reporter: and it didn't take long for the deep philosophical disagreements to come through. first on taxes. >> now, governor romney's proposal that he's been promoting for 18 months calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of $2 trillion of additional spending for our military. and he is saying that he is going to pay for by closing loopholes and deductions. the problem is he's been asked over 100 times how you would close those deductions and loopholes and he hasn't been able to identify them. >> virtually everything he said about my tax plan is inaccurate. if the tax plan he described, i would say absolutely not. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. what i've said is i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> for 18 months he's
stage, almost one-upping the president from the start. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you can imagine here with me. >> that set the tone as romney seemed to control the tempo, sometimes even serving as the moderator. >> let's get back to medicare. >> reporter: and it didn't take long for the deep philosophical disagreements to come through. first on taxes. >> now, governor romney's proposal...
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mr. romney said mr. president, that is not the case. >> i know you and your running mate keep saying that and it is popular to say. but it is not the case. i have five boys and i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i will believe it. that is not the case. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >> gretchen: it was interesting how mitt romney was on the offensive and this is what republicans had critized him for in the past. take it to the president and get out there and be more aggressive in your answers and you say that side of mitt romney because the president would say something. and mitt romney would say no, that is not my plan. here it is. point number one and point two and three. the president also did this. but that was great to narrow it down in simplification of points one, two, and three. >> steve: he had a plan. >> the president also did it. but it was more compelling for mitt romney to do this because he
mr. romney said mr. president, that is not the case. >> i know you and your running mate keep saying that and it is popular to say. but it is not the case. i have five boys and i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i will believe it. that is not the case. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >> gretchen: it was interesting how mitt romney was on the offensive and this is what republicans had...
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east and the persian gulf, that this place is on fire, that mr. president, your policies do not seem to be working. they are burning the american flag. we need to be energy independent. certainly, he can turn that into that, neil. what i'm most concerned about is that he -- if you will, perform as though he's got to get a 98 in economics to obama's 95. he ought to recite the arguments he's got, and then, again, look at how all of the debates were won and lost all the way going back to nixon and kennedy. often, it was a really good one liner that summedded up someone or it was a good rebuttal, and often, it was a gaffe. neil: do you think they change the outcome, though? i mean, if you look back at 1980, you could argue the momentum was beginning to go in ronald reagan's favor. you can argue in 1960, though the race was tight, people were open to a challenger. you're smarter than i'll ever be, pat, but does it change the outcome or confirm a trend? >> i think the 1980 debate did not change the outcome, but i think it -- reagan won. he was moving ah
east and the persian gulf, that this place is on fire, that mr. president, your policies do not seem to be working. they are burning the american flag. we need to be energy independent. certainly, he can turn that into that, neil. what i'm most concerned about is that he -- if you will, perform as though he's got to get a 98 in economics to obama's 95. he ought to recite the arguments he's got, and then, again, look at how all of the debates were won and lost all the way going back to nixon and...
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you're right, mr. president, you invested $90 billion in alternative investment -- alternative energy, but joe, i this i that at the end of the day -- >> i don't know what it does on november 6, we'll see. november 6 is -- >> yeah. i think the president has a point when it comes to basic research. >> you think the president can do better, he can bone up for the next? >> you've seen him do better. >> i think if you've got -- >> there were points, joe, where for example on the attack of dodd-frank, romney says you enshrine too big to fail in five banks. obama doesn't even respond to that. >> you don't think he was prepared? >> this might be a manifestation of bunker mentality at the white house. >> looked tired. >> no one's challenged him for four years. >> i know people in the administration, axelrod on nbc after the debate did a better job talking about the president's point of view. >> his campaign has been much better. >> but the president didn't do it. he didn't do it. >> well, it was a drag studyin
you're right, mr. president, you invested $90 billion in alternative investment -- alternative energy, but joe, i this i that at the end of the day -- >> i don't know what it does on november 6, we'll see. november 6 is -- >> yeah. i think the president has a point when it comes to basic research. >> you think the president can do better, he can bone up for the next? >> you've seen him do better. >> i think if you've got -- >> there were points, joe, where...